I think it was through Lawrence when they signed to his label. So just looking for a good time and some high production quality. But got freaked out by how intertwined he was behind the scenes with all the rest of the center of my musical universe (TØP, MuteMath, half alive, Jon Foreman, Jon Batiste, why is everyone named Jon?). Then endlessly impressed by how multi-talented and try-hard he is. Like Jack Garratt if he could rap and didn't ever trip on his execution.